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Hey,
New to the forum and the game and I'd like to check the rules on one of the action cards.
For the tribute card you multiply the bonuses for different card types revealed by the person to your left.
Is it only different card types, or does it apply to different cards of the same type? For example, an action card and a treasure card would give a bonus of +2 actions and + 2 coins.
Would 2 different action cards give a bonus of +4 actions (becuase they're different cards) or +2 actions because they are both action cards? Similarly, would 1 gold and 1 silver give a bonus of +4 coins or +2 (both treasure etc.)
Reading between the lines I think it would be +4.
Can anyone help?
Thanks in advance!
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matt feldman
United States
Maple Valley
Washington
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tribute wrote: The player to your left reveals then discards the top 2 cards of his deck. For each differently named card revealed, if it is an… Action Card; +2 Actions; Treasure Card; +$2; Victory Card; +2 Cards.
differently named!
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Thanks for the response. Just to check, that would mean 2 action cards would give +4 actions as long as they were different actions?
Thanks again
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Stuckinoz wrote: Thanks for the response. Just to check, that would mean 2 action cards would give +4 actions as long as they were different actions?
Thanks again
Yes.
Smithy-Village => 2 differently named action cards => +4 Actions
Village-Village => 2 copies of the same action card => only +2 Actions
Copper-Silver => 2 differently named treasure cards => +4 coins
Copper-Copper => 2 copies of the same treasure card => +2 coins
etc...
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James Newton
United Kingdom
Wiltshire
In the interest of giving credit where credit is due, my avatar is a scan of a hand-drawn caricature by cartoonist Jim Naylor which was done at my company's 20th anniversary dinner.
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The "Name" of a card is what is written on the top, the "Type" is what is written on the bottom.
Tribute says "For each differently named card revealed", so you get a bonus for each card with a different Name - e.g. if you reveal Copper and Harem you get two bonuses, if you reveal two Silvers you only get one bonus.
The actual bonus you get depends on the Type - so if the Type uses the word Treasure you get +2 coins, if it uses the word Victory, if it uses both then you get +2 coins and +2 cards for the one bonus. If it doesn't say Action, Treasure or Victory then you get nothing.
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churchmouse wrote: Tribute says "For each differently named card revealed", so you get a bonus for each card with a different Name - e.g. if you reveal Copper and Harem you get two bonuses, if you reveal two Silvers you only get one bonus.
Revealing Copper and Harem actually gives you three bonuses - you get +$2 twice (for +$4 total) and an additional +2 cards.
Which leads to the next question people sometimes have: cards that have multiple types count as all their types for Tribute. Hitting a Harem with Tribute generates +$2 (because it's a Treasure) AND +2 Cards (because it's a Victory card), in addition to whatever the second revealed card provides. Hitting a Nobles with Tribute likewise gives +2 Cards and +2 Actions. (So if Tribute flips a Nobles and a Harem, the resulting bonus will be +4 Cards, +2 Actions, +$2.)
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James Newton
United Kingdom
Wiltshire
In the interest of giving credit where credit is due, my avatar is a scan of a hand-drawn caricature by cartoonist Jim Naylor which was done at my company's 20th anniversary dinner.
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salty53 wrote: Revealing Copper and Harem actually gives you three bonuses - you get +$2 twice (for +$4 total) and an additional +2 cards.
If you read everything that I wrote, you will see that I am aware of that, I simply chose to describe it as one bonus of +$2 and +2 cards for Harem.
This was based on the text on Tribute saying "For each differently named card", which implies that you identify the differently named cards and get something for each one, so if you have two differently named cards you get two "somethings", one of which happens to be bigger than the other.
On the other hand, having now checked the card's FAQ in the rulebook, I see that each +2 benefit is described as a bonus, so maybe what I should have said was "you get rewarded for each card with a different Name - e.g. if you reveal Copper and Harem you get rewarded twice, if you reveal two Silvers you only get rewarded once." etc.
This is a question that has come up before, and it merely occured to me that maybe describing it as a bonus reward per differently named card which then consists of a bonus per type, instead of focusing on the bonus per type aspect, might be clearer.
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Emile de Maat
Netherlands
Hengelo
Overijssel
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Moved Thread
Moved this thread from the Dominion Rules forum to the Dominion: Intrigue Rules forum.
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Thanks to you all - much clearer now!
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Pawel Pawlak
Poland
near Poznań
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salty53 wrote: Which leads to the next question people sometimes have: cards that have multiple types count as all their types for Tribute. Hitting a Harem with Tribute generates +$2 (because it's a Treasure) AND +2 Cards (because it's a Victory card) [...]
Unfortunately Tribute does not "know" what a Reaction is, thus dual-typed cards like Treasure-Reaction (Fool's Gold) and Victory-Reaction (Tunnel) - both from the Hinterlands expansion - give a single bonus only.
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m_knox wrote: Unfortunately Tribute does not "know" what a Reaction is, thus dual-typed cards like Treasure-Reaction (Fool's Gold) and Victory-Reaction (Tunnel) - both from the Hinterlands expansion - give a single bonus only.
It's not so much that it doesn't know what a Reaction is as it is that it doesn't care.
Similarly, being an Attack, a Prize, or a Duration don't confer an additional bonus simply because Tribute doesn't care about any of those types.
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Pawel Pawlak
Poland
near Poznań
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salty53 wrote: Similarly, being an Attack, a Prize, or a Duration don't confer an additional bonus simply because Tribute doesn't care about any of those types.
Maybe because these are not "true" types - they're just modifiers of the real type. "Attack" alone means nothing, it is just a modifier of "Action"; similarly "Duration" and "Prize". And notice - they are all single-color cards 
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Matt E
United States
St. Paul
Minnesota
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m_knox wrote: salty53 wrote: Similarly, being an Attack, a Prize, or a Duration don't confer an additional bonus simply because Tribute doesn't care about any of those types. Maybe because these are not "true" types - they're just modifiers of the real type. "Attack" alone means nothing, it is just a modifier of "Action"; similarly "Duration" and "Prize". And notice - they are all single-color cards
False. The Treasure, Action, Victory, and Curse types are no more "true" than Reaction, Duration, Attack, or Prize. There are no subtypes. There are only types. Just because a card like Tribute doesn't reference all of the types doesn't imply a dichotomy.
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m_knox wrote: And notice - they are all single-color cards
Well, Tunnel and Fool's Gold are both multi-color reaction cards.
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Pawel Pawlak
Poland
near Poznań
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kevincos wrote: m_knox wrote: And notice - they are all single-color cards Well, Tunnel and Fool's Gold are both multi-color reaction cards.
I was referring to "Attack", "Duration" and "Prize" types.
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m_knox wrote: kevincos wrote: m_knox wrote: And notice - they are all single-color cards Well, Tunnel and Fool's Gold are both multi-color reaction cards. I was referring to "Attack", "Duration" and "Prize" types.
Fair enough. I was confused because the post you were responding to was talking about Reactions.
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Let's see what rules baggage each card type comes with - that is to say, what having a certain Type listed at the bottom of a card does that does not depend on the effects of other cards and is not explicitly part of the card's effect:
Action: "You can put this into play at the cost of 1 Action during your Action Phase."
Treasure: "You can put this into play during your Buy Phase."
Victory: "This pile size varies with number of players."
Curse: None.
Attack: None.
Reaction: None.
Duration: "This card and its modifiers remain in play as long as needed under Duration rules."
Prize: "This card is not part of any Supply pile."
It looks to me like Duration is a much more meaningful Type than Victory and Curse.
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Jeff Wolfe
United States
Columbus
Ohio
Zendo fan, Columbus Blue Jackets fan, Dominion Fan. These are 'permanent microbadges' to free up space on my microbadge row
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salty53 wrote: Victory: "This pile size varies with number of players."
Curse: None.
Curse varies with the number of players. More than Victory cards, even.
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jeffwolfe wrote: Curse varies with the number of players. More than Victory cards, even.
The thing is that it's not clear that that comes from the Curse type - with only one Curse-type card, the basic pile, the rule regarding Curse pile size may be about all cards of the Curse type or it may be specifically about that particular card named Curse - like how Treasure doesn't say anything about pile sizes but we still have weird sizes for the Copper pile. (Notably, Curse-type fanmade cards like the infamous Blood Money usually do not scale with number of players the way the regular Curses do.)
Victory cards, on the other hand, explicitly have their scaling tied to their type.
It's not a huge deal either way, though.
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